What kind of diagnostic training do clinicians receive? I believe you are quite manic .. This is not what I’m looking for on this blog. They are killing me. Tell a holocaust survivor who suffers from ptsd that they weren’t strong enough to handle the autrocities of concentration camp because of their Jewish genes and see how far you get with that theory. The body & brain even in 2015 is not a completely understood science, bipolar has no specific test to prove it’s a valid diagnosis, hence why you’re treated with drugs (not necessarily specific) to treat certain behaviours and or symptoms that may or may not work, it’s just band aiding many possible biological causes that individually and collectively mirror “bipolar” symptoms and behaviours, with the amount of research that has been done to date like gut bacteria (and brain connection) vitamin and amino acid deficiencies and all other possible causes that mirror “bipolar” behaviours and symptoms, these should be exhausted before you put a blanket over everything and call it bipolar, if you have a big cut you can’t just cover the blood with different types of bandages hoping one will stop the flow, you find out where it’s coming from, and stop it. I am me and I accept that. Natasha has done an extremely wonderful and heartfelt job of making this blog a place for those of us to come together and share, thoughts, stories , etc. Bipolar disorder is due in part to genetic risk variants, but it is also likely to be due in part to environmental susceptibility factors. Skip to main content.us. Herb I live in purgatory. They can do nothing to fix the bipolar feelings, so the patient has to keep coming back and spending money. He is not a drug user. Thanks for that Chris. He loves the Holidays. I fully agree with you that a mood stabilizer (in bipolar disorder) is first needed, such as Lithium, and a different pattern of episode free stability be maintained for a significant time period. After the last medication debaucle, my psychiatrist agreed that we should “try this without medication”. It is no easy task, and tapering off meds should be very gradual under a doctor’s care. i agree. All very interesting though, thanks. Only way to do that is to fall in successful love with someone and he or she loves back. I think the key thing for natural treatment is to realize bipolar is an anxiety disorder, which has triggers which can bring on mood swings. The meds do have an effect on the mind to some extent, just like alcohol has an effect on the mind, and if you are drunk, I don’t care who you are, at some level of intoxication, you cannot drive a car without severely endangering yourself. I think i will stay with your blog because it was insightful/helpful and a lot of comments help because a lot are from people like me who understand somethings even my mom cant get and i cant explain. I’ve had MH pros argue against other MH pros and the diagnoses labeled on my records. So the meds affect the brain and the mind. Eat healthy organic food. I have done some research and there is a former bipolar Sean Blackwell that says he has a retreat package that he offers to patients but you must either travel to Brazil where he is or he travels to Europe as well on appointment. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23224447?dopt=Abstract. Then too there are those who have been unresponsive to any of the aforementioned approaches who have succeeded with some of the newer neuro-modulation therapies. Of to live another nightmarish day. In order to go without medication you should reduce this particular level of dopamine/cortisol both the same time. Bipolar Disorder is a brain malfunction that causes symptoms ranging from unusual mood shifts to debilitating depression.A person who suffers from bipolar disorder experiences feelings of extreme euphoria, excessive energy, recklessness, and impulsivity in the manic phase of the disorder.The depressive phase produces feelings of extreme despair, hopelessness, and can even provoke thoughts … Anyway, glad I made the decision to come off the meds and reclaim my life. Good for you all who have been fortunate to find a treatment regimen that you have responded to and have proven efficacious long-term without any serious or detrimental side-effects. Said to say I have seen what drugs have done after 30 years. Abby- don’t listen to the bullshtters. Once again I would like to state a fact. This caused her to gain lots of weight but was slowing helping her mood swings and stability, It has really been a life saver!, We eventually weened her down with the close watch of her dr.’s and she is on a very lose dose and lost most all the weight, she feels good and is good!, no manic episodes, no other medication in combination. It saddens me that medicating away my symptoms comes at the cost of my quality of life. Anyways I realized that whether this was all delusional or real, I was starting to see how powerful my mind was, and how thoughts literally create your reality. Off? I cannot stand the meds I am on.. There is one big company (I won’t name them) that sells this stuff with wild promises and sly marketing. I have found the right combination, and, although not perfect, it’s fabulous having my life back. 647 887 9824. Chris Beaverton, I’ve been on low dose lithium for 20 years and I’m about to try NAC in addition to the lithium. I am a raging bipolar I lost my marriage because I couldn’t.control myself and my meds I have been of my meds for almost two years I have learn to change my life.style eating habits and now I rage through my.drawings or my. I sincerely hope you find the right treatment for your issues. I’d rather be dead than experience the type of depression that nearly drove me into the ground. I know he is different thats why I love him. Through the years I have advocated for the least invasive therapies to be considered first such as diet, exercise, holistic approaches, talk-therapies etc. Dealing with Bipolar Stigma and Prejudice in the Workplace. Great. Get help if you have trouble quitting on your own. I have been unable to find a safe medication in the last 16 years that I have been in treatment. I just can’t fight the level of sedation and “stabillization” my meds impose upon me. Like what steps should I take to start this process with my own doctor and counsellor? I think mood and anxiety go hand in hand. No ads, no nothing, just my personal ongoing experience. Fortunately, I have had access to incredible free treatment including DBT, CBT, art therapy, excellent psychiatrists and dedicated clinicians…and a wonderful psychosocial rehab club where I have learned so much. He love children and is wonderful to people. keeping moving and exercised is also very important, and equally so getting enough brain silence and SLEEP. I can remember events fine but i cant put them in order or even remember what age i had and sometimes which state i lived in, unless it was something major ; 9/11, surgeries i had to some extent, moving, my parents divorce. My son is bipolar manic. It brought me out of reading status to comment. This illness is a monster to endure. Ordinarily I abhor the term ” victim.” He administered over 50 shock treatments, and each time he would comment on my beautiful hair as he was hooking me up and massaging my head. Wake up at 2 to 3 am is normal. They then label you, diagnose you, put it on your paper for your insurance and your disability papers… and you walk away until next appointment. That’s the test. Lost all my extended family and social network and supposed frriends. What kind of outcome should we be expecting from that? Hi. I’m planning on starting to exercise and take high content fish oil supplements, OmegaVia. I see no coincidence that the people who refuse to take meds are the ones most offended by everything. Options are out there, and what works for me might not work for someone else. You tell them your symptoms and behaviors OR someone else does and they pop open a book, so to speak, thumb through some pages here and there… scroll up and down, until they find something that relatively fits. But I do know when I’m getting a bit over the top with my spiritual ideas then I’m having mania coming on. Among these, childhood trauma has been proposed as a likely environmental factor, Dr. Aas said. Stress always seems to make it worse. Now because someone with DID can switch to an alter without depression, shows that the mind is capable of taking on these things such as depresssion or mania or whatever. I had to reinstate . Bipolar disorder is a chronic mental illness that causes severe changes in mood. This monster disarms anybody that threatens me, and any abuser respects that. I’m not sure why you would say that but I don’t agree. I was surprised when I read that someone was on 40mg Seroquel. You should get him in front of a therapist that works closely with a doctor and find something that works for him. There are things you can do to help maintain stability and remain healthy in your search for the optimum treatment plan. I don’t believe that it’s possible to quit on Seroquel just cold turkey. if meds have done more bad then good. when did you stop your meds and how many were you on and may I ask which meds were you on when you stopped. Anyway, do you think perhaps in the future there will be a treatment method which deliberately uses the minimal amount of medication possible? I have been off all medication for some time now, and fight the daily battle with keeping my emotions in balance on my own. ok, before you get all upset, please understand that none of these things are impossible to change, so before you jump on me for being incorrect, remember that you have been experimenting with some seriously body harming pharmaceuticals. At first try get off of meds it was 7 days totally awake when I came back to drugs. I love my husband very much and we are currently separated. I have been searching and searching and I am on these toxic meds.. . Regards; Jim Blaha. A high school teacher actually admitted to me that the reason he became a teacher is to “mold young minds” – and he probably viewed this as an honourable mission (I’m willing to wager that if he didn’t become a high school teacher, he might have started a cult – but that’s just me). They can make money selling “bipolar meds” to people with this “disorder.”. Unfortunately, he is exactly what I am referring to when I say there are people who are in a particular profession for all the wrong reasons. He just doesn’t know (as none of us do). Anyway, the downside of all of that is someone could EASILY fall into a mania and lose or give away everything important in their lives. I haven’t been diagnosed with bipolar disorder yet but I’m almost pretty sure I have it. Any ideas? However, please understand that psych meds do not work for everyone. In the Expert Review of Neurotherapeutics journal, researchers have this to say after a systematic review of evidence: “However, despite positive preliminary findings, there are less data available to support efficacy of micronutrient formulas in treating bipolar disorder, attention deficit-hyperactivity disorder and substance abuse/dependence and no clinical trials have been done with clinically depressed or anxious patient samples, psychosis or eating disorders.”, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23253391. research gut health and healing extensively. Would you prefer Sane-impaired? CLEAN living and SLEEP is the most important aspect to dealing with bipolar. If you wish to have a conversation with someone, you’re free to take it to a chat room somewhere and share whatever information you like. Your feelings are a signal that something is wrong, they are telling you to check out whatever it is that is wrong and try to fight it. If the person refuses to treat their bipolar disorder, listen and observe to try and understand why they refuse. I did add “I do not have Borderline Personality.” She grew silent with mouth open… I then said, to ease her “but i do know that DBT is helpful for those with Mood Disorders and is often recommended or suggested, much as CBT and WRAP.”, Granted; I may have limited insight into my own illness but each individual’s limitation of insight is all relative to that individual’s ability to comprehend that which is going on and ability to discern…. I have been trying to decide for years weather or not to get diagnosed with bipolar or something like it.? to give up meds for some inconvenient side effects means you like your life being a mess or you arent bipolar. I tried for 10 years to deal with my mania without meds, I failed. You should look better than any one else of your sex near. I’m still on disability. And it IS work. At end of session: She decided to inform me that her primary background was in Eating Disorders and DBT (she took over for my therapist that moved, remember?). Over the long term, I hope to reduce my meds somewhat but I likely will always be on something unless I’ve been stable for years and years and feel like rolling the dice. She was always against the fact that i refuse medication because she loves me and hates seeing me suffering. I personally will say my meds saved me from killing myself. I did not take this ‘new drug’ seriously and stopped it. Once you get the balling rolling, and you are able to reduce the episodes by yourself, then you’ll feel more in control, and realize you’re not actually sick, you’ve just let your thoughts take control of how you feel for most of your life. Some bipolar disorders don’t have a specific pattern. Since doing this work, my symptoms have improved no end. Hi I was reading another blog about antipsychotics but it wouldn’t let me add a comment I think it was because it was to told, anyway. The current gene theory bothers me because it suggests that I just wasn’t genetically strong enough to handle the trauma of child abuse. This is a threat to the status quo of a society and social structure that is crumbling because it is based upon the outer or external person. As always I extend my best wishes to one and all for wellness and for all the good you’d wish for yourself. How can a physical thing like meds change something abstract and specific like thinking? Pharma meds, street meds, over the counter meds, and “natural holistic” meds… all chemical changing. It is very interesting notes. When dopamine level drops – cortisol – stress level rises. (And the research supports this.). (I read an article addressing this issue in college and found it highly disturbing). I was stuck with my drugs though they made me sick suicidal. I don’t know of a single supplement that has any evidence in helping mania. We have been dealing with dark depression and suicidality and manic episodes (which start as breathtaking artistic episodes then deteriorate to extreme hostility). However, miracles are always possible. Do they treat mental disorders with it or not? I would never “dog” on something that has worked for tens of thousands of people. And you ultimately create your own reality by the power of your thoughts. Im scared because it is getting worse i get so angry then i cant sleep and a slew of other issues. Sometimes i do think i might need to get back on medication but im afraid to. Unfortunately, we can only manage the symptoms there is no way to beat it that I’m aware of. I self-express daily. Just opposed to taking medication. She then argued with me as to why I wasn’t already “fully” medicated? http://www.shadesofawakening.com/ I never would have imagined feeling so normal and as good as I feel most of the time now. I would like to ask you what vitamin supplements are good. So here I outline the treatments I’m aware of that treat bipolar disorder without prescription medication (or neuromodulation, like electroconvulsive therapy or repetitive transcranaial magnetic stimulation). I find that offensive. I’m on the final year of a degree course studying humanistic integrative counselling and want to write my dissertation on people who are med free with bipolar disorder. I was sent to see a child psychiatrist when I was about 7 and, although they didn’t diagnose it back then, it was suggested that I had ADHD. The Connecting process of eCPR involves deepening listening skills, practicing presence, and creating a sense of safety for the person experiencing a crisis. Also, for people looking for resources on how diet effects mental health, and in particular bipolar, I would look into the field of Evolutionary Psychology. My anxiety levels and depression levels are beyond belief.. Bipolar — and any mental illness or chronic debilitating illness — is cruel. He seems to do so well while he is at work. I’ve toned down my spiritual / religious side, although I do enjoy researching it.. Not if you actually have bipolar disorder... You can definitely minimize the amount of meds you take through habits like a strict sleep schedule, eating extremely healthy and regular exercise. By subscribing, you'll get access to a FREE eBook on coping skills. so we must learn the triggers and healing remedies so we can life a life of joy and happiness. Tas, Cognitive Behavior Therapy can help, and if at all possible reduce stress in your life. My own experience is yes you can survive but surviving is different than living well. Until you do something about them. But i just got worse and worse. Are my drug treatments killing me is my question? The longer you sit on the fence about real treatment the more you are enabling his behavior. I will admit that it’s still a bit soon for me to make the assumption that I’ll never deal with manic-depressive episodes ever again, but I have been completely off lithium for six months now without the slightest hint of relapse into a manic episode. And everyone has the right to use their own intelligence and judgement, based on their own experience, to decipher what works best for them. We all have our own our journey to travel. ( self inflicted pain) most of which, are amplifying the damage to your GUT, adrenals and even your brain. My psychiatric nurse encourages me to go to therapy. It’s a personal thing and I am not in any way trying to encourage others to go meds free. I think one problem stems from the fact that there is no accurate way to diagnose someone. A neurologist told me it is called an essential tremor and came from taking the medication. Er sent her back to where she did not get any help in first place. I experienced glimpses of that life while hypomanic. I do hope that one day psychiatrists will be able to objectively test people for mental illness the same way objective tests are provided for diabetes. It was after all an antidepressant that triggered the severe Bipolar manic episode (with psychosis.) The whole idea meds can change your thinking is a ploy to get people to purchase meds (and enrich med companies) in order to mask their emotional symptoms. Many communities that had reputations for “curative waters” had or have high levels of lithium naturally in their well water or springs. Try out herbal remedies, I have found that Daimana, Chamoile, Ginko, St John’s Wort, Brahmi, and Mugwort have had nothing but a positive effect on my life since I started using them in tea form. And that’s the trick. These might elevate my depressed mood, but generally it’s going to set me up to crash again to a lower low. first of all, let me just make this clear: IT WASNT EASY in action, but IT WAS SIMPLE. It’s a treatment. My other thought is perhaps a medical illness – perhaps an infection in utero or as an infant. I have gone through med changes based on an opinion and not science, no blood work, etc. I’m lucky enough to respond well to medication, but my life took a real dive when one of my antidepressants stopped working (and we didn’t know what the problem was). Because I looked at a blog post after a week? (www.medfree.myqxlife.com). Because using those tricks you will still be suffering, it will just make it a bit less painful. The alternative, is to die. Hope it would help. My guess is that if you’re not formally in the conversation, they are probably all wrong. You can indeed learn to live with it. Not anymore. Medication might be the answer for some people, but I believe many people are wary of going down that route due to short-term and long-term side effects of prescription pills. Have you tried the asparagus diet? but it can be healed. I’m bipolar and meds free. Not because I was non compliant but because after 20 years of meds, we never found one that helped and many caused me harm. The mirror neurons will make them more stupid with every communication with others as it copies the attitude. No amount of psychotherapy, fish oil, “micronutrients,” homeopathic remedies or anything other than drugs has helped. even Jesus may have been diagosed with bipolar in todays standard by the dsm. Not 2 or 3 months. BLESS YOU ALL. I am tired of feeling like a sloth! I’ve certainly spent some time thinking of my own early manic symptoms. I was able to quit smoking cigarettes off my meds, hold my job, maintain a 3.8 GPA in college, and get a drivers license. Therapists often disagree about which label to assign to a given patient, and there is perhaps surprisingly little definitive research to prove that, “A person with diagnosis X will benefit from and not be harmed by treatment Y.”. Bipolar for 11 yrs.. Lithium and Risperdal for 4-5 yrs. But it is so hard for two month with increased anxiety and insomnia. Just the other day he had an altercation with his roommate and went to a motel and had a few drinks and spent his rent money on clothes, He then tells me he knows what he did wrong. “I went off my medication 2 months ago and I feel great!” Are you kidding me? I became aware of my swings and triggers and avoid when i can. Good luck, It must be very frustrating when your psych tells you you’re being non-compliant just because you’re trying to improve the way you feel. I’m 48 and this is my third attempt at completing a degree (this will be familiar to those with bipolar who are experts at starting but not completing projects :-) ) Would you be interested taking part? I’m 48 and this is my third attempt at completing a degree (this will be familiar to those with bipolar who are experts at starting but not completing projects :-) ) Would you be interested taking part? While medication that simply treats the mental symptoms alone can sometimes make you feel spiritually dead inside (negating the spirit) like too much lithium did for me and was also ruining my thyroid and kidneys (ruining the physical). I have found that depression and mania are much easier to control if you take control of your lifestyle and environment. So get to a psyciatrist either way. And heroin didn’t kill Janis Joplin; it merely brought out the death in her. They don’t make me feel better at all, period. Is a good diet and exercise and fish oil , etc good for the brain and the body.. Yes.I smediatation? I have been on treatment for 15 years now and do not do those things anymore . If that’s a good idea, then maybe we should let anyone that ever watched the Discovery Channel do open heart surgery. I feel for you. Symptom free for the first time in many years, if not ever. Exhale. OK began suffering severe panic attacks around 16 and was on Zoloft for ten years. Let me say it again, because I don’t want to be indirectly responsible for a death. She used medication for 3 months and stopped because her weight was doubled. Apparently I been suffering that for most of my life and I didn’t even know it. I can only control how I react. I have been off psych meds for about 4 years now. I cycle up to 4 times a day. Can you please tell me what your wellness tool are if you dont mind. Michael is just trying to use ad hominem against your argument (“your argument is wrong because you’re manic!”). Why? I talk to her about all decisions except the most trivial, as a good habit in case I’m slipping hypomanic without noticing – but I notice more often than not. corn-based or corn fructose containing foods, non-alkaline grains or grain-based food, partially hydrogenated anything, BREAD, sweetened tea, soda or JUICE (even kombucha sold at supermarkets have too much sugar to be beneficial), booze(duh), ANTIBIOTICS, and did i mention SUGAR? I only recommend doing so if you are working with your doctors and in therapy though. Back on Lithium and I do not care about bloody reports I am staying on it. She then proceeded, I kid not; to tout the success of DBT, as if I had never heard of it. Actually its very common to feel as being close to god or god itself for a person in psychosis. I stopped taking my lithium about 6 months ago, and have hospitalized myself twice (Over 5 years ago, although my triggers would trigger anyone to be depressed) I stopped taking it because I currently suffer from liver disease caused by Ritalin due to fraudulent medicine and have no desire to put any form of medication in my body unless it is organic and comes the Earth. People like myself get annoyed whether I am right or wrong. But there is help available to make that transition. And I was very distressed with the conversation with that person attacking you as crazy, etc. I guess I’d say that for people who prefer “supplements” for some kind of moral or philosophical reason, there’s no reason not to try lithium–under a doctor’s supervision, with their blood levels checked, so they get the results but don’t poison themselves. And one should not forget that lifestyle changes can effectively help stabilize mood in bipolar disorder. Why are you so obsessive then and want to continue to beat a dead horse? Benzos for Bipolar.?. I may be one of the exceptions to the rule. I use a combination of CBT, mindfulness mediation (which really helps with my sleep patterns and recognising changes in my body and mental state to help predict manic, hypo manic and depressive episodes), supplements: magnesium, omega-3, and B-12 shots every 3 months; a balanced healthy gluten free diet rich in greens and protein (I am coeliac so I follow a gluten free diet – which was diagnosed around the same time as my bipolar disorder), and regular outdoor exercise (the sunlight is great for circadian rhythms and vitamin D as well), plus 10 mins of yoga daily . Pls help me guys. listen to guided meditation to get you started. But about the topic – is it possible to go without medication? I’m trying to find a psychiatrist that can give me a second opinion, but all the ones I’ve called are busy. I have suffered from BP2 for 50 years before I got DXd and RXd. I use 3 hour program – 1 hour exercising, 1 hour eating, 1 hour sleeping – this enxances anabolic metabolism very effective. My opinion is that I have been able to change my brain chemistry so that that cluster of symptoms do not occur anymore that were such a huge problem in my daily life. Without insurance, a bipolar disorder patient can pay at least $500/month for minimum treatment. I suffered the Drug effects till I knew I had enough. Now, when I have the very early signs of anxiety, I use calming practices effectively. I’m gonna save up for it though. that being said bipolar will not be an easy battle. I have never spoken of this publicly. Reduce the thoughts, and pay attention to what you focus on – this is the key. They then asked themselves if their mood was actually causing them problems or concerns (some people do see positive aspects to experiencing their bipolar moods). Avoid drugs alcohol and stimulants at all costs. I got severe maniac attack twice in my 14 year patient life. It can happen to anyone, at any time. Back on the meds I went. I find that on-going therapy with the same therapist often helps me get through a crisis because I look forward to telling her about it. Not to mention a double blind placebo controlled study completed and awaiting publishing, with four others to be released in the coming months. Please help! Possible reasons include when the person: Has difficulty accepting that they have bipolar disorder or need treatment ; Does not wish to be connected with the stigma sometimes linked to bipolar disorder Another major helper is sunlight…. It.has taken me five years to get my bp under control I may need meds later but I am doing well now. Some people choose to treat bipolar disorder without medication. They are barely even verbal – how can you determine what their personality is? 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